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The Army says seven people were killed and 20 wounded in a pair of shootings at the Fort Hood Army base in Texas. An Army spokesman at the Pentagon says the shootings began about 1:30 p.m. Thursday at a personnel and medical processing center at Fort Hood.

The spokesman, Lieutenant Colonel Nathan Banks, says two shooters were apparently involved. There is no word yet on who they were, nor on identities of the dead.

Banks says the second incident took place at a theater on the sprawling base.

He says it is too soon to tell whether there is any link to battle stress or repeated deployments. The Army is suffering a record high suicide rate and other signs of stress from fighting two wars.

I think the modern inability to cope is directly linked to the no balls, no heart, no morals, society full of delicate flowers created by the decades of PC suck cock liberal bullshit.

I wonder how much of CID's investigation on this dude was hampered by the PC overlords trying to avoid any hint of profiling? They've been eyes-on this cat for months.

When I hear of the modern soldier "suffering" my mind castes back a few years to WWII and I think of the relative support mechanisms that did NOT exist back then for return from service personel. That and the fact some units were front line for alot longer and certainly could not buy a cafe latte from a fucking star bucks to go with their pizza hut fucking pizza while they surf the fucking internet....

I think the modern inability to cope is directly linked to the no balls, no heart, no morals, society full of delicate flowers created by the decades of PC suck cock liberal bullshit.

what a weak cunt act to run around shooting other folk for any fucking reason... fuck this behaviour aggrevates me....

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assuming he ever wakes up from his coma

On Thursday afternoon, a radicalized Muslim US Army officer shouting "Allahu Akbar!" committed the worst act of terror on American soil since 9/11. And no one wants to call it an act of terror or associate it with Islam.

What cowards we are. Political correctness killed those patriotic Americans at Ft. Hood as surely as the Islamist gunman did. And the media treat it like a case of non-denominational shoplifting.

This was a terrorist act. When an extremist plans and executes a murderous plot against our unarmed soldiers to protest our efforts to counter Islamist fanatics, it’s an act of terror. Period.

When the terrorist posts anti-American hate-speech on the Web; apparently praises suicide bombers and uses his own name; loudly criticizes US policies; argues (as a psychiatrist, no less) with his military patients over the worth of their sacrifices; refuses, in the name of Islam, to be photographed with female colleagues; lists his nationality as "Palestinian" in a Muslim spouse-matching program, and parades around central Texas in a fundamentalist playsuit — well, it only seems fair to call this terrorist an "Islamist terrorist."

But the president won’t. Despite his promise to get to all the facts. Because there’s no such thing as "Islamist terrorism" in ObamaWorld.

And the Army won’t. Because its senior leaders are so sick with political correctness that pandering to America-haters is safer than calling terrorism "terrorism."

And the media won’t. Because they have more interest in the shooter than in our troops — despite their crocodile tears.

Maj. Nadal Malik Hasan planned this terrorist attack and executed it in cold blood. The resulting massacre was the first tragedy. The second was that he wasn’t killed on the spot.

Hasan survived. Now the rest of us will have to foot his massive medical bills. Activist lawyers will get involved, claiming "harassment" drove him temporarily insane. There’ll be no end of trial delays. At best, taxpayer dollars will fund his prison lifestyle for decades to come, since our politically correct Army leadership wouldn’t dare pursue or carry out the death penalty.

Maj. Hasan will be a hero to Islamist terrorists abroad and their sympathizers here. While US Muslim organizations decry his acts publicly, Hasan will be praised privately. And he’ll have the last laugh.

But Hasan isn’t the sole guilty party. The US Army’s unforgivable political correctness is also to blame for the casualties at Ft. Hood.

Given the myriad warning signs, it’s appalling that no action was taken against a man apparently known to praise suicide bombers and openly damn US policy. But no officer in his chain of command, either at Walter Reed Army Medical Center or at Ft. Hood, had the guts to take meaningful action against a dysfunctional soldier and an incompetent doctor.

Had Hasan been a Lutheran or a Methodist, he would’ve been gone with the simoon. But officers fear charges of discrimination when faced with misconduct among protected minorities.

Now 12 soldiers and a security guard lie dead. 31 soldiers were wounded, 28 of them seriously. If heads don’t roll in this maggot’s chain of command, the Army will have shamed itself beyond moral redemption.

There’s another important issue, too. How could the Army allow an obviously incompetent and dysfunctional psychiatrist to treat our troubled soldiers returning from war? An Islamist whacko is counseled for arguing with veterans who’ve been assigned to his care? And he’s not removed from duty? What planet does the Army live on?

For the first time since I joined the Army in 1976, I’m ashamed of its dereliction of duty. The chain of command protected a budding terrorist who was waving one red flag after another. Because it was safer for careers than doing something about him.

Get ready for the apologias. We’ve already heard from the terrorist’s family that "he’s a good American." In their world, maybe he is.

But when do we, the American public, knock off the PC nonsense?

A disgruntled Muslim soldier murdered his officers way back in 2003, in Kuwait, on the eve of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Recently? An American mullah shoots it out with the feds in Detroit. A Muslim fanatic attacks an Arkansas recruiting station. A Muslim media owner, after playing the peace card, beheads his wife. A Muslim father runs over his daughter because she’s becoming too Westernized.

Muslim terrorist wannabes are busted again and again. And we’re assured that "Islam’s a religion of peace."

I guarantee you that the Obama administration’s non-response to the Ft. Hood attack will mock the memory of our dead.

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Before you get the obligatory "you're a fucking idiot"

I'll tell you that you're dead wrong.

This piece of shit was a radical Islamist that sanctioned the behavior of suicide bombers, and other radical Islamist groups and their cowardly tactics.

This wasn't some anti American radicalization as you put it. Otherwise this fuck would have walked into the nearest mcdonalds or walmart and pulled this stunt off.

He did this on base against his fellow unarmed soldiers because that is where his disjointed bullshit religious views would and did make the most sense to his broken mind.

Until the peaceful mainstream Islamist start policing these radical groups themselves then the next solution is dealing them wholesale fucking death (japan 1945) until they are forced to clean their own house

plain simple

this isn't military or international terror. it's criminal. he should be brought up w/ treason charges and hung.

When I hear of the modern soldier "suffering" my mind castes back a few years to WWII and I think of the relative support mechanisms that did NOT exist back then for return from service personel. That and the fact some units were front line for alot longer and certainly could not buy a cafe latte from a fucking star bucks to go with their pizza hut fucking pizza while they surf the fucking internet....

I think the modern inability to cope is directly linked to the no balls, no heart, no morals, society full of delicate flowers created by the decades of PC suck cock liberal bullshit.

what a weak cunt act to run around shooting other folk for any fucking reason... fuck this behaviour aggrevates me....

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Nish,

I'm not suggesting what this Col. Did was some act of international terror.

It is however the exact same disenfranchisment that the radical Islamists have against us.

By all accounts, this guy was a social loser. Aside from going into the army, going to school, getting commisioned, going into medicine, who was this douche?

Other then a handful of family speaking up for him, where are his friends? Where is the first chick from college he fucked and she didn't think he was a creep? Where are his colleagues saying anything positive? Where's one fucking buddy that drank a beer with him saying anything?

Why did he want a devout Muslim wife? Maybe because he didn't have the wherewithal to maintain a relationship eith a woman that had a mind of her own and wouldnt be a subservient second class animal on the level of owned property to be barely seen never heard?

The guy was a fucking coward, and a collosal loser. You have to be if you can't succeed in America with a free education and commision in the US armed forces.

I understand what you are saying about not wanting to legitimizing this asshole to give more fuel to the actual terrorist. But it was the lack of our action and doing exactly what you suggest we don't do that allowed this asshole to continue to slide down the slippery slope until he cracked.

By all accounts the military/FBI/the fuckers command all knew he was a goddamned powder keg just marking fucking time before he would explode.

All for what? So we wouldn't hurt the Feelings of the Islamic community? Well guess what? 13 people are dead for it.

This jagoff would have been a pentacostal snake handler preaching his shit and the military would have booted his ass out on an other then honorable or admin seperation long ago!

Actually, Nish, his medical school classmates complained of him for his radical views. His patients complained of him for the same. This is a doctor that told his patients that their sacrifices were for at best nothing at worst evil. His collegues complained of him for giving lectures justifying suicide bombings etc. He was in contact with (or at least trying to be in contact with) higher ups in the radical muslim groups. He wasn't your average "American" loser. This wasn't his columbine for being "bullied". The sad thing is that there was MUCH known about him and little to nothing done about him because of PC fears of being labeled racist. As the article I posted said red flags all over the place and not a damn thing done about it because no one wanted to offend anyone's sensibilities.

(2) the term “terrorism” means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents;

Tell me, now Nish. If you found out that he occasionally talked to a devout Muslim chap who is a little outspoken in the same way, and this very same guy worked in the office across the street from you in a company that just happens to make ball bearings for military applications... would you be going to fucking work ever again?

most administrative organizations do fairly asses and address matters impacting personal safety. they have more to loose if shit goes wrong.

to your point - this person isn't an islamist. as far as we know, this guy was disgruntled and began to use his ideology to justify his contempt towards his employer. this happens, our history is littered w/ these kinds of nut jobs and painting him into the object of the war kind of defeats the entire purpose of the war. that is my beef, nothing else.

When the terrorist posts anti-American hate-speech on the Web; apparently praises suicide bombers and uses his own name; loudly criticizes US policies; argues (as a psychiatrist, no less) with his military patients over the worth of their sacrifices; refuses, in the name of Islam, to be photographed with female colleagues; lists his nationality as "Palestinian" in a Muslim spouse-matching program, and parades around central Texas in a fundamentalist playsuit — well, it only seems fair to call this terrorist an "Islamist terrorist."

i just think it's unfair to count their deaths on the hands of our true enemy, when we clearly bred and enabled the institution to fail in the way it did. what happened in ft hood is america's responsibility and don't want to blame johnny al queda for this idiot.

whatever happened to crazy?

Nish, once again I point out you are either stupid, or trolling.



This is best served by g g and her article:


You're putting the cart before the horse, saying that we can't blame Al Q for this nut job, without examining the reason he is a nut job in the first place. Quite simply, if he was simply a disgruntled employee, even with the in-built tools to defeat cursory investigation (i.e. psychiatric examinations), then in the grand scheme of things it is doubtful that even though he can escape the obvious "bad-guy" radar in many places of work, the sheer number of complaints would have outed him as unstable.

Now think about who suicide bombers and terrorists actually are. Tell me, what makes the perfect suicide bomber or self-sacrificing terrorist? This fucknozzle basically displayed the textbook for all to see, in any case. He was unhappy, decried the Western world for everything it stood for, wished there was more he could do in the name of Islam, and most importantly he despised himself or where he was. Religious cults and terrorist organisations both recruit these very same people through media, preaching and various other channels, enable them and coach them either overtly or covertly and fill their heads with shit.

At the end of the fucking day, Nish, if AQ, JI, and all the other wacko Muslim terrorists didn't go out there with video cameras and tape themselves blowing shit up and being praised for it, and use everything from broadcast media to clandestine preaching, this would not have happened. He'd instead be sobbing in the Chaplains office, instead of thinking it was a good idea to go shooting up the base.

The Muslim terrorists recruited him without even talking to him. It's more than plausible, it's a certainty. Some people are so prone to suggestion - no matter how schooled they are - and can be convinced to do almost anything without even being coerced. This guy was simply easily influenced, and the groundwork he received as a kid (given his name) probably provided an excellent seedbed to grow the suggestion of righteous sacrifice from what he saw on the media and internet.

Putting the horse back before the cart: He is an Islamic radical because he was convinced through whatever channels (media, preaching, personally approached, sleeper agent, whatever) to think this was a good idea. The original sentiments are voiced by radicals and terrorist, and therefore by believing those same sentiments and extolling the virtues of the same AND by acting on them, he becomes one of them.

Enabled he may be because of the political correctness and the impotence of the Army to stop him before he got this far is NOT the same as creating the monster in the first place. It was simply the unwillingness/inabiity to restrain it before it got out of hand.


Again, you should. You're just being fucking dense, or you're championing this troll far too much. I'm happy to sit here and tell you you're wrong all over again, purely because I prefer to think that you are a fucking dumb cunt this time around instead of orchestrating a troll in this particular part of the forum.

Al.Q. , J.I., P.I.J. and the other 70-plus odd organisations create/recruit the terrorist. Not America. Not the Western World.

Now quit being such a retard. Next you'll tell me that if you disable the alarms and turn off the sprinkler system at your work and burn the place down, it is the fault of your employer for not providing enough safeguards for it happening - and unfortunately most of the mainstream US is doing exactly that kind of thing because they are worried about who the paycheck can come from for bad shit happening, and not simply kicking the ass of the cocksucker who did it in the first place.