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The Army says seven people were killed and 20 wounded in a pair of shootings at the Fort Hood Army base in Texas. An Army spokesman at the Pentagon says the shootings began about 1:30 p.m. Thursday at a personnel and medical processing center at Fort Hood.

The spokesman, Lieutenant Colonel Nathan Banks, says two shooters were apparently involved. There is no word yet on who they were, nor on identities of the dead.

Banks says the second incident took place at a theater on the sprawling base.

He says it is too soon to tell whether there is any link to battle stress or repeated deployments. The Army is suffering a record high suicide rate and other signs of stress from fighting two wars.

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Wow man, talk about the times. I was just in an "active shooter" class this morning. I learned a lot of stuff, but mostly about the psychological make up of this type of incident. Bizarre to say the least. Foot Hood was even briefly talked about with its vicinity to the Lubys Cafeteria massacre in Killeen.


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Damn.

My nephew is stationed at Fort Hood right now.


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One of the shooters is in custody, and the other was shot to death.

Today is a sad day.


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When I hear of the modern soldier "suffering" my mind castes back a few years to WWII and I think of the relative support mechanisms that did NOT exist back then for return from service personel. That and the fact some units were front line for alot longer and certainly could not buy a cafe latte from a fucking star bucks to go with their pizza hut fucking pizza while they surf the fucking internet....

I think the modern inability to cope is directly linked to the no balls, no heart, no morals, society full of delicate flowers created by the decades of PC suck cock liberal bullshit.

what a weak cunt act to run around shooting other folk for any fucking reason... fuck this behaviour aggrevates me....

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An Army psychiatrist who opened fire at Fort Hood, Texas, killing 12 people and wounding 31 others, was shot but captured alive, military officials said late Thursday.

The gunman, identified as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, was wounded at the scene but was captured alive and was in stable condition, Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone, commanding general of the Army’s III Corps.

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Defense officials said Hasan, 39, arrived at Fort Hood in July after practicing for six years at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, which included a fellowship in disaster and preventive psychiatry.

At Walter Reed, Hasan received a poor performance evaluation, according to an official who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case publicly.

There was no official word on motive. But Hasan was scheduled to be deployed overseas on Nov. 28, officials said. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, said military officials had told her that Hasan was “pretty upset” about his deployment, which she said was to be to Iraq.

Maj. Nidal Malik Hassan was described as ‘upset’ about his pending deployment to Iraq.

The Associated Press, quoting federal law enforcement officials, said Hasan had come to their attention at least six months ago because of Internet postings that discussed suicide bombings and other threats. The officials said they were still trying to confirm that he was the author.

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I think the modern inability to cope is directly linked to the no balls, no heart, no morals, society full of delicate flowers created by the decades of PC suck cock liberal bullshit.

Absolute fact.

I wonder how much of CID's investigation on this dude was hampered by the PC overlords trying to avoid any hint of profiling? They've been eyes-on this cat for months.

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I wonder how much of CID's investigation on this dude was hampered by the PC overlords trying to avoid any hint of profiling? They've been eyes-on this cat for months.


you can bet your sweet ass damn near the whole damn thing. had he been white or black of non muslim faith, his ass would've already been in a sling.

40+ dead and wounded > one douchebag's potential hurt feelings

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I wonder how much of CID's investigation on this dude was hampered by the PC overlords trying to avoid any hint of profiling? They've been eyes-on this cat for months.


you can bet your sweet ass damn near the whole damn thing. had he been white or black of non muslim faith, his ass would've already been in a sling.

40+ dead and wounded > one douchebag's potential hurt feelings


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When I hear of the modern soldier "suffering" my mind castes back a few years to WWII and I think of the relative support mechanisms that did NOT exist back then for return from service personel. That and the fact some units were front line for alot longer and certainly could not buy a cafe latte from a fucking star bucks to go with their pizza hut fucking pizza while they surf the fucking internet....

I think the modern inability to cope is directly linked to the no balls, no heart, no morals, society full of delicate flowers created by the decades of PC suck cock liberal bullshit.

what a weak cunt act to run around shooting other folk for any fucking reason... fuck this behaviour aggrevates me....

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you are spot on(for the most part) and it disgusts me.

not all units are in the huge FOBs that have access to all the amenities and comforts of home. The guys fighting the fight are in extremely destitute conditions(esp in afghan now). That being said, in my admittedly limited experience, you will find that the guys who have gone through the most shit will complain about it the least, while the guys who haven't seen a god damn thing will be lining up to claim PTSD that cant be medically disproved so they can get out of doing any sort of work/deploying again.
whatever. I could go on for pages about this bullshit. the bottom line is that it isn't the PC movement destroying this country's foundation, It is everyone else complacently accepting it.
We are completely fucked and we have no one to blame but ourselves. fuck i get so mad

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I want to know more about the guy(s) in custody. What was their role and why were they not shooting ?


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If you want to get pissed about the PC shit that led to this shit, then I would strongly advise you not to follow this story waiting to see what kind of punishment this Col. gets for his actions.

The greatest insult is yet to come when at best this pile of shit Col. Gets his own cushy wing at Leavenworth for maybe 10 years, then gets to go home to his family.


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assuming he ever wakes up from his coma


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He won't go to the DB. He'd have to be in solitary for the rest of his life or get killed by any of the soldiers there. They'll send him to a federal pen instead.


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assuming he ever wakes up from his coma


The piece of shit is now awake...and talking.

Whatever he's saying...It better be fucking good

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 Post subject: Re: ft hood
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On Thursday afternoon, a radicalized Muslim US Army officer shouting "Allahu Akbar!" committed the worst act of terror on American soil since 9/11. And no one wants to call it an act of terror or associate it with Islam.

What cowards we are. Political correctness killed those patriotic Americans at Ft. Hood as surely as the Islamist gunman did. And the media treat it like a case of non-denominational shoplifting.

This was a terrorist act. When an extremist plans and executes a murderous plot against our unarmed soldiers to protest our efforts to counter Islamist fanatics, it’s an act of terror. Period.

When the terrorist posts anti-American hate-speech on the Web; apparently praises suicide bombers and uses his own name; loudly criticizes US policies; argues (as a psychiatrist, no less) with his military patients over the worth of their sacrifices; refuses, in the name of Islam, to be photographed with female colleagues; lists his nationality as "Palestinian" in a Muslim spouse-matching program, and parades around central Texas in a fundamentalist playsuit — well, it only seems fair to call this terrorist an "Islamist terrorist."

But the president won’t. Despite his promise to get to all the facts. Because there’s no such thing as "Islamist terrorism" in ObamaWorld.

And the Army won’t. Because its senior leaders are so sick with political correctness that pandering to America-haters is safer than calling terrorism "terrorism."

And the media won’t. Because they have more interest in the shooter than in our troops — despite their crocodile tears.

Maj. Nadal Malik Hasan planned this terrorist attack and executed it in cold blood. The resulting massacre was the first tragedy. The second was that he wasn’t killed on the spot.

Hasan survived. Now the rest of us will have to foot his massive medical bills. Activist lawyers will get involved, claiming "harassment" drove him temporarily insane. There’ll be no end of trial delays. At best, taxpayer dollars will fund his prison lifestyle for decades to come, since our politically correct Army leadership wouldn’t dare pursue or carry out the death penalty.

Maj. Hasan will be a hero to Islamist terrorists abroad and their sympathizers here. While US Muslim organizations decry his acts publicly, Hasan will be praised privately. And he’ll have the last laugh.

But Hasan isn’t the sole guilty party. The US Army’s unforgivable political correctness is also to blame for the casualties at Ft. Hood.

Given the myriad warning signs, it’s appalling that no action was taken against a man apparently known to praise suicide bombers and openly damn US policy. But no officer in his chain of command, either at Walter Reed Army Medical Center or at Ft. Hood, had the guts to take meaningful action against a dysfunctional soldier and an incompetent doctor.

Had Hasan been a Lutheran or a Methodist, he would’ve been gone with the simoon. But officers fear charges of discrimination when faced with misconduct among protected minorities.

Now 12 soldiers and a security guard lie dead. 31 soldiers were wounded, 28 of them seriously. If heads don’t roll in this maggot’s chain of command, the Army will have shamed itself beyond moral redemption.

There’s another important issue, too. How could the Army allow an obviously incompetent and dysfunctional psychiatrist to treat our troubled soldiers returning from war? An Islamist whacko is counseled for arguing with veterans who’ve been assigned to his care? And he’s not removed from duty? What planet does the Army live on?

For the first time since I joined the Army in 1976, I’m ashamed of its dereliction of duty. The chain of command protected a budding terrorist who was waving one red flag after another. Because it was safer for careers than doing something about him.

Get ready for the apologias. We’ve already heard from the terrorist’s family that "he’s a good American." In their world, maybe he is.

But when do we, the American public, knock off the PC nonsense?

A disgruntled Muslim soldier murdered his officers way back in 2003, in Kuwait, on the eve of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Recently? An American mullah shoots it out with the feds in Detroit. A Muslim fanatic attacks an Arkansas recruiting station. A Muslim media owner, after playing the peace card, beheads his wife. A Muslim father runs over his daughter because she’s becoming too Westernized.

Muslim terrorist wannabes are busted again and again. And we’re assured that "Islam’s a religion of peace."

I guarantee you that the Obama administration’s non-response to the Ft. Hood attack will mock the memory of our dead.

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I'm telling you, this fucko gets less then Bernie madoff by a very long shot


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i have spent a bit of time thinking about what happened. y'all know how i feel about islam, so i don't have much to say there.

the hump i'm trying to overcome is the behavior a product of American radicalization or is this guy a single-man sleeper cell sanctioned by Allah?

this isn't military or international terror. it's criminal. he should be brought up w/ treason charges and hung.

islam shouldn't play into this, because after reviewing the facts closely - it's obvious that this man went through a uniquely american radicalization.

it isn't about assimilating into society, it isn't about the global war on terror, it isn't about anything other than an american becoming frustrated w/ the government, its decisions and impact on his personal life.

he wasn't fighting for an overreaching international cause, he was fighting his disposition and being a selfish dolt.

this should not be treated as an international issue. i take exception to people who are putting him in the same bag as the shoe bomber or 9/11.


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Before you get the obligatory "you're a fucking idiot"

I'll tell you that you're dead wrong.

This piece of shit was a radical Islamist that sanctioned the behavior of suicide bombers, and other radical Islamist groups and their cowardly tactics.

This wasn't some anti American radicalization as you put it. Otherwise this fuck would have walked into the nearest mcdonalds or walmart and pulled this stunt off.

He did this on base against his fellow unarmed soldiers because that is where his disjointed bullshit religious views would and did make the most sense to his broken mind.

Until the peaceful mainstream Islamist start policing these radical groups themselves then the next solution is dealing them wholesale fucking death (japan 1945) until they are forced to clean their own house

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Before you get the obligatory "you're a fucking idiot"

I'll tell you that you're dead wrong.

This piece of shit was a radical Islamist that sanctioned the behavior of suicide bombers, and other radical Islamist groups and their cowardly tactics.

This wasn't some anti American radicalization as you put it. Otherwise this fuck would have walked into the nearest mcdonalds or walmart and pulled this stunt off.

He did this on base against his fellow unarmed soldiers because that is where his disjointed bullshit religious views would and did make the most sense to his broken mind.

Until the peaceful mainstream Islamist start policing these radical groups themselves then the next solution is dealing them wholesale fucking death (japan 1945) until they are forced to clean their own house

plain simple

japan was a organized force w/ defined geographic borders. so, no it's not plain and simple.

did this guy belong to a group? no.

seems he was on a way to join something, get his actions sanctioned (before the fact) and took matters into his own hands.

it's home grown, not the same islam we're fighting against. comparing the two cheapens the strength of the house cleaning argument.

we all agree that islam needs to control its savage behavior, and until then we do need to clean their house and lawn for the sake of ours'. this guy isn't the real enemy and serving him as one only plays into immediate interests and steers us away from the end goal.

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µ, he does belong to a group. It is called "Islam" and being a member of this group means that if you are not a fellow muslim member I can kill you with the blessing of the groups founder.


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this isn't military or international terror. it's criminal. he should be brought up w/ treason charges and hung.

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When I hear of the modern soldier "suffering" my mind castes back a few years to WWII and I think of the relative support mechanisms that did NOT exist back then for return from service personel. That and the fact some units were front line for alot longer and certainly could not buy a cafe latte from a fucking star bucks to go with their pizza hut fucking pizza while they surf the fucking internet....

I think the modern inability to cope is directly linked to the no balls, no heart, no morals, society full of delicate flowers created by the decades of PC suck cock liberal bullshit.

what a weak cunt act to run around shooting other folk for any fucking reason... fuck this behaviour aggrevates me....

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It's a myth that soldiers in previous wars did not suffer psychologically. Before Vietnam, it was something that wasn't really reported or talked about due to propaganda and the fact that it made soldiers into "cowards" when the reality was that they just couldn't mentally go on anymore without help. Also, there was psychiatric support for soldiers in WW2, but it wasn't at the level that is available now.

Remember the incident with Patton where he slapped a soldier recovering from combat stress?

Not the best source I could find, but I can't exactly show you the material from my WW2 class. link

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Nish,

I'm not suggesting what this Col. Did was some act of international terror.

It is however the exact same disenfranchisment that the radical Islamists have against us.

By all accounts, this guy was a social loser. Aside from going into the army, going to school, getting commisioned, going into medicine, who was this douche?

Other then a handful of family speaking up for him, where are his friends? Where is the first chick from college he fucked and she didn't think he was a creep? Where are his colleagues saying anything positive? Where's one fucking buddy that drank a beer with him saying anything?

Why did he want a devout Muslim wife? Maybe because he didn't have the wherewithal to maintain a relationship eith a woman that had a mind of her own and wouldnt be a subservient second class animal on the level of owned property to be barely seen never heard?

The guy was a fucking coward, and a collosal loser. You have to be if you can't succeed in America with a free education and commision in the US armed forces.


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